Maybe time to find another league...

[Biff]

I am seeing lopsided deals - where brothers only trade with brothers. Where a dad has been making "friendly" deals with his son, who also owns a team in the same league.

I've been in this particular league for over ten years. But it's time to consider moving on.
I play (currently) in two leagues, but have played roto since 1985.

And one of these days, maybe I'll win. The fun is in the playing.
I like the roto format, I would be interested in a dynasty/keeper league.

I realize this is getting posted in mid-May, but if you have an owner not returning, or an owner thinking of bailing out, send me a message.

[Dr Dave]

Just wondering how liberal your trade rules are. In our 41 yr NL only we are allowed only one trade with each team per year with a maximum of 2 players traded per team. We also have a salary cap. This tightening of the screws has helped with "buddy" trades.

[Biff]

Just wondering how liberal your trade rules are. In our 41 yr NL only we are allowed only one trade with each team per year with a maximum of 2 players traded per team. We also have a salary cap. This tightening of the screws has helped with "buddy" trades.

I have also played in other leagues that have a limit of the number / amount of trades per year between teams (November through the trade deadline) and I have thought that was a good rule. There is no rule like that in place in this league.

I have not seen a league that limited the number of players involved in a deal. That's interesting.

This particular league has a "draft day" cap of $260. But once the games begin, the in-season cap moves up to $360. There is also a permanent floor of $120. to prevent full-scale dumping. But some owners want to scrap that floor entirely. I'd like to raise the floor.

No league is perfect. But this one needs work and other owners seem less interested in making changes.

[MilwBraves]

Maybe???

[Biff]

Maybe???

Yeah, I know what you mean. I have just gone through a long-term rebuild after a 2nd place finish in 2021 (tore it down in mid-2022, when I realized I didn't have the horses), rebuilt through the rest of '22 then all of '23 and '24, and now in 2nd currently.
It's disappointing.

If a league has an owner that has bailed (or is leaving) I would be willing to take a look at possibly stepping in mid-season.

[usualsuspects]

Or…..get your brother to join up.

[Biff]

Or…..get your brother to join up.

Haha, my son picked up a team a few years ago. He only stayed for a year.
We agreed - as he was joining - to do ONE trade between us.


So. Yeah.

[Old Tom]

Never be in a league with relatives. I've been in several and every one of them was a disaster.

[usualsuspects]

There might be an opening in a league circle360 runs……

[Dr Dave]

This happens more than you would think. In my AL only league today a team traded Vlad and Chisholm for Grayson Rodriguez and Gil.

[bowi8son]

in keeper leagues this happens all the time

[Biff]

This happens more than you would think. In my AL only league today a team traded Vlad and Chisholm for Grayson Rodriguez and Gil.

I’m guessing that was Benji Gil? Kidding!

These are good examples of things that take the joy out of this.

[MilwBraves]

Never be in a league with relatives. I've been in several and every one of them was a disaster.

Well, in my 34 year old home league, we've had a father and son with teams from its inception. Zero problems.

[etex211]

BS trades are at the top of the list of things that kill leagues.

In the 18 team league that I run, we adopted new rules a couple of years ago that seem to have eliminated the BS trades. We use a rolling seven-man committee that approves or vetoes all trades. This committee changes by the week and consists of the current top 7 in the standings. Any three no votes can kill a trade.

We also have escalating trade restrictions throughout the season. Beginning June 1 of each season, the team higher in the standings gets $5 added to the salary of all players received in a trade, and after the MLB all-star break, the players received in a trade by the team higher in the standings will have an expiring contract.

So far, these rules have done the job of eliminating the BS trades.

[Timmeh49]

Well, in my 34 year old home league, we've had a father and son with teams from its inception. Zero problems.

FWIW, same here. In my case, one owner brought in his father in 1994; he passed away in Sept 2022, but we brought in the son of a different owner to replace him.

Zero father/son problems.