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    As the season goes along, will you have the same detail in your bullpen indicators with this new format versus previous years. Specifically will you show the number of clean appearances for relievers versus number of total appearances? Will you show xERA? The information in the bullpen indicators as of now is sparse versus what we have been used to.

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    All of that stuff is there already. The table is just broken in 4 parts. You need to walk through the four "Stat Groups" in the selector at the upper right to see all of the data. Everything you're asking for is there already. The table is identical to the old site.(There is also the YTD vs. Last 30 spllit as another toggle, that doesn't do anything yet, but will be working when we get 31 days into the season.)

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    • #3
      Thanks - I get it now. I have to go to the different groupings such as skills etc. Another question - it used to be easy to find the pitcher you were looking for because they were all grouped together by their team. Now I can’t figure out how they are listed. They aren’t grouped together by team or alphabetically. What is the best way to find an individual pitcher you are looking for quickly?

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      • #4
        Use the Team dropdown list if you want to view one team. Use the search box if you want to search for a specific player... just type in their last name.

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        • #5
          A couple of questions on the Bullpen Indicators. (1) Why when you click on it does it default to the 2023 season and not the 2024 season? (2) Why is it that you can only see 50 pitchers max at any time versus last year when you could see an entire league at a glance. (3) Last year and in prior years you could see all of the stats on page - why do you have to click on several drop downs now in order to see the same stats? This file is far more cumbersome to use than before. How is this file better than what we have been used to? (4) Why isn't an RP like Kyle Hurt listed given he has had 2 appearances this year and how many others are omitted?

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          • #6
            1. We'll be changing the default to 2024.
            2. The tables get slow to load if you have too many names displayed at once. We can raise the number past 50, but it won't be all players.
            3. Having a mobile-friendly web site means you can't build tables that run for miles to the right. The different views are how we get around that. If the table were 50+ columns wide, you'd be scrolling all day.
            4. I'll check on Hurt.

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            • #7
              I was doing some due diligence on Mitch Spence from Oakland. He has pitched 16 pretty good innings but I don’t see him listed under the Oakland relievers. Can you help? Thank you

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              • #8
                Fixed. He was tagged as an SP.

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                • #9
                  I love the bullpen indicator data to be very helpful with information not found anywhere. But this version versus the other version is just not very user friendly. When I research RP's I generally go to Fangraphs, Statcast, and then BHQ Bullpen Indicators to get a complete picture. The way the data is organized now even by team is just cumbersome. My question is - Is there a way to get these relief pitchers grouped in alphabetical order? When i click on the player tab hoping to get them from A-Z it doesn't work. Unfortunately - I am finding the Bullpen Indicator section to be a microcosm of the new site. Unfortunately - I just don't use the new site nearly as much as the old site and try to make my decisions with getting data elsewhere.

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                  • #10
                    Brent and I were actually working on improving those reports last week. We should be able to get sort by name working.

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                    • #11
                      As mentioned, Brent and I were actually polishing up this table last week. It definitely needed some polish... I think it's a lot more useful now:

                      - changed default table size to show 50 names
                      - sort by name works properly now
                      - added default sorts to each view: ERA (Results view), BPX (skills view), Leverage Index (Usage view)
                      - Last 30 split view should start working in next couple of days.
                      - Requested a CSV export of the entire table (all views). Hope to have that soon too.

                      We also did some surgery on the column layouts of each view... they make a lot more intuitive sense now, at least to me. Totally open to other suggestions that would make this chart more useful.

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                      • #12
                        I like the new Bullpen Indicators format. Tons of info available here.

                        One additional stat that I'd like to see relates to BB and Ks. Either their running totals or per inning rates.

                        JUST found info on BB% and K% ... It was there all along
                        Last edited by TMac; 06-09-2024, 08:54 AM.
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