Yoshitomo Tsustugo

[JonE]

He has not appeared in a single player projection file since he was traded to LAD. I know he has a projection because I can see it in the depth chart and in Playerlink. Just flagging it for attention.

[RAY@HQ]

Are you sure you're downloading the latest files? Sometimes if you download regularly, your browser caches the last one and you don't get the latest version. I just opened both the NL and MLB batter CSV files today, and see him in both.

[JonE]

Ah. I misspoke. He has not appeared in a single CDG file since he moved. (I see him in the stats and projections files.)

[RAY@HQ]

That's kind of weird. I thought the CDG through everybody in the player pool into the valuation, but it seems like it doesn't. If I run the CDG against YTD stats rather than projections, I get Tsutsugo in the output... so there's nothing natively wrong with Tsutsugo's player record. But I can't get him to appear in a CDG with projected data, either. I'm wondering if there's a playing time clip level, and his projected ~20 AB are getting dropped on the cutting room floor.

[JonE]

Well, that would also explain why I can't find some players in the CDG soon after they get called up. I usually put the blame on a delay in projecting them -- if someone is only getting a spot start, why project them? -- but a PT cutoff would also make sense. If only there were someone you could ask about that.

[RAY@HQ]

Well, that would also explain why I can't find some players in the CDG soon after they get called up. I usually put the blame on a delay in projecting them -- if someone is only getting a spot start, why project them? -- but a PT cutoff would also make sense. If only there were someone you could ask about that.

Right? I like to think you don't stump me often. I'll dig deeper into this.

[The Shadow]

Well, that would also explain why I can't find some players in the CDG soon after they get called up. I usually put the blame on a delay in projecting them -- if someone is only getting a spot start, why project them? -- but a PT cutoff would also make sense. If only there were someone you could ask about that.

I do know from observation of the CDG reports (as opposed to programming them) that Pitcher cutoffs vary. Earlier in the year, 6 IP would be included. Then it changed to 12. Yesterday, it was 10. The point is, it's always a low number since that's where a projection of wins and saves being greater than 1 are extremely remote, and it takes more than 1 win or save to bump a player off of his -3 to -4 value in taking up a roster slot before producing any stats. Same for the ratio stats. It takes very low or very high ratio numbers over less than 10 IP to budge the -3 to -4 empty roster value.

I'm sure the same phenomenon exists for Batters; at some level, a reasonable projection of counting stats in less than X AB won't budge the negative value of a hole in your roster, just as only extremely low or high ratio stats will budge that value in so few ABs. I haven't paid attention to Batters on this matter this season, but a fast scan of a CDG report will quickly highlight that minimum AB number in the -3 to -8 range, I suspect.