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Originally posted by makelele View PostOK, then, in all seriousness, HRs and doubles are a better reflection of true "slugging" ability than triples, which are more related to speed. Have you considered adjusting the way you calculate SLG to reduce the influence of triples? That would certainly be a more "pure" way of measuring someone's slugging ability. Why OBP and not SLG?.
But at the risk of rehashing old arguments, OBP stands for on-base percentage. Getting hit by a pitch puts a person on base. So one could argue that including HBP is more "pure" because on base is on base. If it were called on base skill, that would be one thing, but percentage is purely mathematical, indicating # of times out of 100..
And back to the original point, this HQ subscriber does not want OBP to be "made into a skill measurement" at the expense of being incorrect.
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Originally posted by Astros34 View PostGood luck with that. I've tried off and on since I joined. I would like MACK reports to show the actual OBP since my sim leagues use individual HBP nos. and I use MACK to evaluate my team. Utley's 19 HBP this year are basically ignored by HQ.
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Originally posted by makelele View PostAnd back to the original point, this HQ subscriber does not want OBP to be "made into a skill measurement" at the expense of being incorrect.
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Originally posted by RON@HQ View PostThis was not a flip decision that we've made. We've been doing this for more than two decades, based on sabermetric research. The OBP issue has come up numerous times in these forums - the bottom line is it impacts no more than a handful of players by more than a handful of points. They may call their way "standard"; we call our way more "pure." Rest assured, it hardly impacts your analytical ability to manage that category in your leagues.
But at the risk of rehashing old arguments, OBP stands for on-base percentage. Getting hit by a pitch puts a person on base. So one could argue that including HBP is more "pure" because on base is on base. If it were called on base skill, that would be one thing, but percentage is purely mathematical, indicating # of times out of 100.
And back to the original point, this HQ subscriber does not want OBP to be "made into a skill measurement" at the expense of being incorrect.Last edited by makelele; 09-04-2009, 01:54 PM.
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This was not a flip decision that we've made. We've been doing this for more than two decades, based on sabermetric research. The OBP issue has come up numerous times in these forums - the bottom line is it impacts no more than a handful of players by more than a handful of points. They may call their way "standard"; we call our way more "pure." Rest assured, it hardly impacts your analytical ability to manage that category in your leagues.
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Originally posted by RAY@HQ View PostWe don't include HBP in our calculation, even though it's part of the "official" formula. We feel like HBP isn't a skill, and we figure HQ users want to see OBP as a skill measurement.
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We don't include HBP in our calculation, even though it's part of the "official" formula. We feel like HBP isn't a skill, and we figure HQ users want to see OBP as a skill measurement.
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OBP formula
Does HQ have a different formula for OBP than Fangraphs or Espn?
Fangraphs & Espn have Milton Bradley's OBP at .394 as of Sept 4.
BaseballHQ has Milton Bradley's OBP at .382 as of Sept 4.Tags: None
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