Looking for hr/9 Rates in Forecaster

[agellin]

Hi Ray,
Ron was talking about a new hr/9 rate filter of 3.5% or less for LIMA pitchers but I don't see the hr/9 data in the individual pitcher boxes. Just wondering if that data will be made available? Thanks.
Al

[RAY@HQ]

That was just a filter Ron used in the LIMA formula, we've got HR/F in the box, both HR/F and HR/9 on the site, I think we're covered.

In all seriousness, it is kind of confusing... I might be asking Ron to bend that back into HR/F next year just for consistency.

[agellin]

Good idea...yes, Ron promoting data that isn't in the Forecaster is a bit confusing...and not consistent. Thanks Ray.

[eiger]

RAY@HQ I don't think you are covered. I am looking for "home run rate" as well. HR/9 can't be right. For LIMA, it says, "a home run rate of less than 3.5%" 3.5 HR/9, would be 2.3 HRs in 6 innings pitched, certainly not a good benchmark for a quality pitcher. Also, very few pitchers have an HR/9 ABOVE 3.5 (only 32 of 454 pitchers in the NL last year exceeded 3.5, surely 92% of the NL pitchers don't meet this LIMA filter.

Similarly, it can't be HR/FB either, look at the HR/FB rates for top pitchers, sub 10% is great (see also the cheater's book mark where the NL League average is 12%). Bryan Abreau, first pitchers in the boxes, LIMA A, HR/FB 5%; Acevedo LIMA A, HR/FB 12%

So, can we get a definition of "home run rate" for pitchers?

[eiger]

RAY@HQ I'd like the stat "home run rate" to be in the player statistics and projections so I can filter on those in a downloaded csv/spreadsheet. Going through every player box is unnecessarily time consuming. Of course, if it can be calculated using stats already there, that's fine with me.

[RAY@HQ]

No, it's not HR/9, or HR/FB. It's HR/batters faced. Since we don't have batters faced handy in the player box or spreadsheet, you can estimate that as:

HR/((2.82 * IP)+H+BB)

I've already dropped Ron a note about converting this back to HR/F or HR/9 for next year.

[RAY@HQ]

Also, the threshold HR/BFP of 3.5% isn't particularly tight... its around 1.3 hr/9 or so.

[eiger]

Thanks. Yeah, using a filter not easily available in a core strategy is just a bad idea. If it was some article about a new thought or strategy, sure. Thanks for putting this in Ron's ear and perhaps more so for the usable formula.